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Joe

Wouldn't you know it -- alternate side parking stories draw the hugest number of comments! Now excuse me while I go read Calvin Trillin's "Tepper Won't Be Going Out" in my illegally parked car.

Jim Strathmeyer

It's good to know our government it doing what it should: making its citizens' lives easier.

DC1974

New York has not figured out the way to really make money from this. Chicago has street sweeping, but no one actually knows the schedule and it isn't posted until the day before. So let's say (as many do) that you don't check your car everyday. And you only later discover that street sweeping came and happened and you got ticketed. If you've got the time, you can appear in court and get the ticket waved -- by saying I hadn't been to my car in a few days and was caught off guard -- but for those that are too busy or too lazy or some odd combination there of -- you just go ahead and pay. Posting the schedule really gives a heads up that would seem to benefit the driver and not the city -- silly city.

Bill Amstutz

As a guy with a day job, I always move my car the day before. I have found that the earlier you try the better. Up where I live in Morningside Heights by 8:30 - 9:00 on a Monday night there are plenty of Tuesday spots, but zero Monday spots and plenty of people driving around looking. So I move my car the moment I get home from work when I am walking the dog.

I'm pretty new to this (I used to use the car everyday to drive to work in the 'burbs), so I am not sure if I pay more in tickets than I would to just get a friggin garage. Recently I got two $125 tickets for being in a crosswalk that I didn't think I was in.

My pet peeve with parking is people who park with plenty of room between their car and the other cars often taking more than one spot in the process.

Jen Bekman

Yep, I think you have to move it the night before. It's always a bit of a mystery to me actually - if you come to my block past 9pm on night-before-street-cleaning you can usually slide right into a spot, no circling required. (Thursdays can be a bit tricky since it's a big going out night and God knows people love to go out in the East Village.) I don't know where all these cars go, because on Tuesday nights both sides are usually full-up. (There's no street cleaning on my block on Wednesdays.)

I just assume that the people moving their cars around are self-employed like me. My comrades in shuffle that I can think of: Kim, who owns Podunk and Stuart, who owns White Trash up the street, both of whom I mentioned above and also: my friend Susan, who has her own catering business, Monty, a freelance photographer and Pierre, who's a clothing designer.

Being able to double-park and leave it 'til the cleaner comes made it a lot less time consuming. Having to be out there a full hour and a half is a big chunk of the day, but like I said, I can usually pick up a wireless connection and work. The alternative is renting a garage spot, which runs about $400/month in my neighborhood. Not an option for me!

Of course the real alternative is not having a car at all, which probably makes sense for most people. I use mine quite a bit for gallery related stuff, and mass-transit for out of town trips is unfortunately not an option since I like to bring Ollie along whenever I can. She's 50 pounds of dog, so I can't pack her in a little tote that I throw over my shoulder. It's too bad actually, because I love taking the train.

Chris Mear

"you pretty much can’t do the shuffle if you’ve got a day job."

So, how are you expected to move your car out of the way? Or are you supposed to move it the night before to somewhere completely different? Or what?

This seems like a huge waste of human time and effort just for the sake of sweeping the streets.

Ryan

Fascinating. This is just begging for some time-lapse videos...

John

This is so foreign and bizzare. What are all of these people doing at home on Mondays and Thursdays in the middle of the morning? Do you not work those days just to avoid parking tickets? Weird.

northerner

We've got a similar ritual in downtown St. John's, but it happens at night, during the winter... to allow for snow clearing.

Jen Bekman

Andrew, was nice to see you too! I am just a wee bit to the West of you, where I've been for more years than I'd care to admit.

Meg, your West Village parking situation sounds particularly challenging. I don't know that I could've dealt with that. We have it relatively easy over here on 5th St., for now at least. All the new development is changing the neighborhood a good deal and I'm sure that the block will be quite different once the 23 story (gasp!) hotel opens on the corner.

John, I work pretty much all the time, but my time where I actually need to be sitting at a desk is minimal. It's true, though - you pretty much can't do the shuffle if you've got a day job.

mdj

Fascinating. I had no idea. Here in the outlying 'burbs of Salt Lake City, there's plenty of room for me to park wherever I like, whenever I like, with impunity. I'm in 'n' out of my car so fast I don't even have time to SMS, let alone blog.

Todd W.

Good gravy, talk about synchronicity! I just got ticketed for this very thing yesterday morning. A $45 ticket for getting to the car 2 minutes late.

leo

That was fascinating and entertaining, thank you for that. I live in Chicago, and we have street cleanings as well, but it's the better part of 6 hours long, so we just circle the block(s) until we find a kosher spot, and resign ourselves to parking 18 blocks away.

I particularly adore that everyone in their cars are so neighborly towards each other. "We're all in this together, so lets make the best of it!" That makes me smile.

Noelle

When I lived in Washington Heights, I sometimes borrowed my parents' extra car from Jersey. I would make sure to time my arrival back to the city for the end of street cleaning at 11:00. I never borrowed the car on a Wednesday, when there was no shuffle. It always felt a bit evil to do that, as I was a sometime parker, not an everyday parker. What people who work during the day do about their cars always boggled my mind, because come 9:30, the cars were all gone from the alternate side, people coming out of the woodwork at the last minute for the shuffle.

Jon

Interesting ordeal!

I would never have imagined living in New York would be so car unfriendly!

kendra

i live in nolita, where thankfully the shuffle is civilized, and dare i say it, even friendly, but it's a completely different dynamic on the upper west side where my boyfriend lives. people will generally snake your "double-parking spot" if you don't get out in your car 15 mins before street cleaning starts, and then, even before the street cleaner goes by, someone will just drive up and park in the spot across from you that you're waiting to park in. i almost had a coronary one morning! the car sleeps downtown from now on.

Mark

Hmm... we have the same thing in San Francisco, but without any of the bonding or waiting. Just earlier today I went out to move my car (ahh! I forgot and it's fast approaching the the 1 pm time I have to move my car) and was lucky enough to find a spot on the next block over. No double-parking, no chatting, no waiting or reading the paper. Just move your car. Or, if you've thought ahead, try to place your car in the proper position the day before or so.

megnut

I love hearing different stories about this ritual. When I lived in the West Village, our street was only one lane wide, with parking on each side. So people didn't double park, we'd just sit in our cars in our spots, reading magazines or the papers with one eye tuned to the rear view mirror and one ear perked for the sound of the street sweeper. When it would approach, everyone would pull out into the traffic lane and let it pass, then return to their spaces. And then sit again to make sure the police didn't come by with tickets. When they did, it was stressful, because they made you drive around the block. And I'd be worrying the whole time somebody else not involved in the shuffle would stumble across "my" spot and take it. So we'd all speed around the block and come back and park. Guh. I'm glad I'm done with that, it was a huge time sink and very stressful, even if it was somewhat neighborly.

Adam Powell

Hi Jen,

here. Long time! I like you site and hear your gallery is doing well. Swing it!

Andrew Hetherington

Looks like we are on the same block, more or less, I am guessing, I am 5th street + 1st ave, and I have helped the ferocious tree lady ' Jana' with her cart and hoses down our end.

Great to see you again the other night

I would love to catch up sometime

Eli

In Buffalo we had alternate side parking for snow removal.

The joke was that on my block there was no overlap -- you could park exactly half the week on one side and exactly half the week on the other side. If you didn't move your car at precisely 4pm on Wednesday and Sunday, you were technically parked illegally.

Laia

i just became insanely jealous of you... because of parking cars.
i dont know how to feel about this.
(maybe its just the awesome neighborhood description that made me think if mr rogers?)

Jen Bekman

Joe, I am jealous of you Brooklyn people and your weekly alternate side regulations. On the plus side, I am happy not to live in Brooklyn. (Blasphemy, I know!)

Laia, I hear you - I don't entirely hate the car parking ritual because of the neighborly aspects of it. I'm fortunate to live on a great block that often feels friendlier than small towns I visit elsewhere. I spent some time in Hudson, NY over the weekend, and while I did encounter some nice folks, I was overall kind of shocked at how un-cordial people were.

Joe

In my Brooklyn neighborhood, we have alternate side rules for just one day a week on each side of the street.

After doing this shuffle for years, I now have a mental map of a 25-block area surrounding my house, and I know exactly where to move the car on any given Monday or Tuesday at 1:30, Wednesday at 10:00, Wednesday at 1:30, and Thursday and Friday at 10:30. Busy Thursday coming up? I know where to move it Tuesday after lunch so I don't have to think about it again.

I know in Manhattan your rules aren't quite so civilized...

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